[NB] Divination/Invocation

I have been chewing over a little turn in the conversation between Austin and Gordon in one of the recent Runesoup podcasts. There is a point where they are talking about what you get from an astrological reading (a series of data points which are fairly abstract) to what you need to provide the querent (some concrete situations to which these could apply). That juncture is, well, magical.

At that point, the reader isn’t just interpreting, they are invoking. They are summoning with the tools at their disposal, weaving the astrological powers into a little ritual which directs and channels them. The difference between casting a chart and preparing a ritual according to the astrological weather is a difference in intensity rather than of kind.

3 thoughts on “[NB] Divination/Invocation

  1. There’s a lot of that in geomancy, too. The chart is abstract … its relation to a given client or querent (even myself as the querent) is a magical and personal set of relationships.

    In teaching, one of my favorite colleagues used to say that there’s the content, there’s the student, and there’s the teacher. And the student is often focused on the student-teacher relationship, because the teacher has a relationship with the content; but the teacher’s job is to help the student develop his/her own relationship with the content.

    In divination, though, it’s often the opposite, isn’t it? The querent, the reader, and the chart (geomantic or astrological or tarot spread or iChing spread) all exist, and so does the relationship between them. But the querent is interested in the chart, the reader knows the chart… but has to develop the querent-reader relationship enough to help the chart make itself understood to the querent in a way that’s relevant.

    There’s massive food for thought there. Thank you for pointing it out.

    1. Io

      I think there is something right with how you are describing the difference here, though in some ways I think that the student-teacher relationship might be another way to come at the divination.

      Some diviners can be a lot like the teacher. The querent often focuses on the diviner but ideally the diviner transmits to the student the intimations of their own relationship to what is divined, even if the student does not try to learn about divination.

      The question of ego comes in, too, with the way in which both a diviner and a teacher can get in the way of the student/querent getting what they need…which is where the potential for the divination to be an invocation can get a little toxic.

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